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Self Closing Doors

Post by Dramaticus » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:40 pm

What is the SOP for dealing with self closing doors in room entries?

Self-closing doors.
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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by seal236 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:36 pm

Depends on tactic being utilized

Dynamic. Dosent matter... Make entry... let it close if need be, pin it when you get a chance or dis able the self close mech.

Deliberate. Pin with foot. Rather get shot in the foot than the face... Then same as before

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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Ryan » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:25 pm

Yeah you can door wedge. Same goes for internal defense settings where you prop open doors that give an axis of fire into a threat area.
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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by seal236 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:47 am

Hoolie tool and yank that mofo off the door!

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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by tacticalguy » Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:43 am

seal236 wrote:Hoolie tool and yank that mofo off the door!
Done that more than once.
If you have `cleared' all the rooms and met no resistance, you and your entry team have probably kicked in the door of the wrong house.
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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Ryan » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:10 am

http://www.wikihow.com/Clear-a-Building-with-a-Firearm

Method 4 mentions self-closing doors.
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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Ryan » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:16 am

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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Ryan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:34 pm


2:34. Awful video but an example of a SCD and LE.
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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by DareTactical » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:27 am

Ryan wrote:
2:34. Awful video but an example of a SCD and LE.
Self closing doors that swing outwards, away from the room, are not much of a problem.
It's the self closing doors which swing inwards, into the room, that are.
(also off-topic, but relating to another recent topic; notice the Israeli stance, SOP and lack of shoulder transition in that video :D, these guys are probably ex-IDF.)

This is one of the few times I would seriously consider doing an immediate entry, if I have enough manpower that is.

A quick peek is a good solution, which Ryan suggested before. I would definitely use this if I was on my own, or had a situation where I was not in a hurry. But for situations such as hostage rescue, it's just too risky.

Another potential idea, which most of you previously mentioned, is doing a limited entry with one guy jamming the door with his foot. Don't know how effective this is, since I've never trained with it, and I am not saying it is better than the previous two solutions. Anyone have any experience training with this that could give us further insight?

Would like to hear more thoughts and perhaps more potential solutions.
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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Alfa47 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:07 pm

Grab a hacksaw, a bushcraft knife and some scrap wood and make some door wedges. Put several in a GP pouch or something and you're set. That and a hoolie in case shit goes bad.

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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Breacher01 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:20 pm

Last man should take the arm at the hinge, with the door open and just pull it down. this works for mechanical closing doors. with electrical you can put tape over the optical sensor. commercial closing doors sometimes need to be wedged. most brands use similar protocols for doors as assa abloy.

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Re: Self Closing Doors

Post by Xeno » Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:16 am

I'm a big fan of limited penetration but there are situations when it's not possible I.E. Overall space, opposing danger areas, and inward opening self closing doors. Whenever faced with such, the command "Rush!" is sounded and we ditch Lim Pen and go into a dynamic entry.

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