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knife disarm

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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:48 pm

"KNIFE DEFENSE MYTH
By Carl Cestari



Instead of talking about alot of bullshit concerning so-called unarmed "knife" defenses, let's reverse roles for a moment.

Let us assume the "role" of the attacker, instead of the "defender".

First, let's consider the "choice" of weapon.

A knife or any edged weapon is an "up close and personal" tool of ferocious and brutal mayhem. You have to close with your mark and physically, violently and with extreme prejudice stab, slash, and hack him to bits. It's not like a gun, which could have an element of detachment. No, a knife is about as personal, brutal and ruthless as it gets.

So what kind of "mind-set" does this entail? You are going close with your target hard and fast, using deception, surprise or simply a committed and brutal pouncing. You are going to be determined, ruthless, brutal, ferocious, vicious, and most probably filled with hate and rage.

You are going to seize the target with abject brutality and stab, slash, hack and eviscerate with totally committed rage, ferocity and hate. OVER and OVER and OVER.

NOTHING is going to stand in your way. NOTHING! You are going to DESTROY whatever DOES attempt to thwart your murderous assault. You will attack repeatedly with ALL the strength, speed, and brutality you are capable of. And THAT will be heightened even MORE by rage and adrenalin.

You KNOW that you MUST get this over with QUICKLY. Your attack will be a frenzy of hate, rage and murderous INTENT.

You WON'T "feint" with your blade, you WON'T "spar" with your blade, you WON'T "half-step" with your blade.

You WILL attack with brutal and ruthless rage. You WILL punch, kick, bite, gouge, butt, and do ANY and EVERYTHING that will accomplish you GOAL in as ferocious a manner as Inhumanly possible.

Unless YOU are killed outright, NO injury will dissuade you from KILLING your mark. In FACT, anything LESS than your death, will ONLY add MORE FUEL to YOUR FIRE. NOTHING, short of your immediate demise CAN stop you. Rage, hate, murderous intent and adrenalin are fueling you to an almost superhuman state of FRENZY and FEROCITY!

Even when your man goes down, and DOWN you are determined to put him, YOU still continue the assault. You stab and stab and stab. You kick and stomp OVER and OVER and OVER again.

You DON'T even begin to "disengage" until your "blood" lust has been quenched, and your mark taken off the count.

THAT is what REALLY happens when one human being uses a knife on another.

Face that FACT squarely. Too many are "playing" knife gymnastics without EVER even realizing what the street has in store for them. It ain't going to be pretty!

Are you REALLY preparing to DEAL with THAT?

Or are you kidding yourself and others?

REALITY sucks, as they say. But it is what it is!

Carl Cestari"
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Re: knife disarm

Post by civiliansheepdog » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:03 pm

All day everyday train like this

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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:57 pm

Great video by the way. I can see why you like the guy. As the top comment says, 'idiot proof.' :lol: He tells it like it is, depicts the errors of ways instead of promoting them and spit shining them to say they're OK.
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Re: knife disarm

Post by civiliansheepdog » Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:55 am

Yeah pretty much what kelly does and says how it is. Very gross motor and you can pull it off in a heart beat with out thinking too much. And it doesn't take you years to learn knife defense or some "special" form of techniques, which sometimes can be annoying if one day you encounter a knife attack and need to defend yourself just realizing "what the hell was that technique again?"

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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:02 pm

What about Matt Larsen?



I think he teaches very well, reasoning included!
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Re: knife disarm

Post by civiliansheepdog » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:01 am

Hmm, honestly in my opinion I would not ever try to strike the hand with the knife or try to grab it with both hands. There's way too many chances that you'll get cut badly if you try striking the hand with the knife or trying to grab the hand with the knife. If the target had a blunt weapon like a bat or a stick, then I would probably attempt to strike the hand with the blunt weapon out of the target's hand.

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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:10 am

I agree with that, a knife is in motion not a static object as depicted. What's the point in a slap when if you're that close you can control the wrist and pull back the thumb?
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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Thu May 09, 2013 9:57 am

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Re: knife disarm

Post by civiliansheepdog » Thu May 09, 2013 3:46 pm


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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Tue May 14, 2013 12:13 am

Pretty good. I find 'fighting' a knife around the mid-line to be nil effective, pushing off-line always leaves you with a better chance but as stated you will get cut no matter what.



Example of how quick it can happen.
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Re: knife disarm

Post by civiliansheepdog » Wed May 15, 2013 3:00 am

A more knife defense instead of a knife disarm. Props to the defendee for not losing focus on the hand with the weapon, and pushing through when he was getting stabbed instead of backing up to even get more stabbed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkieAwV2 ... ture=share

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Re: knife disarm

Post by nathanwagar » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:02 am

Larsen was on point (excuse the pun) until he showed the actual disarm. No way in hell. Literally no way in hell would that work against an aggressor, and I can promise he hasn't worked that in force on force.

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Re: knife disarm

Post by rickdaub » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:40 am

I think you gotta watch this video "Defending Against a Knife Attack"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftfa1jzfg6k
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Re: knife disarm

Post by Ryan » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:06 am

Cute.
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