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ACT

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:59 am
by Ryan
A - Actions. Run, hide or fight.

C - Communicate. Observe, interact, activate.

T - Treat. Bleeding, airway, breathing.

Re: ACT

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:39 pm
by Breacher01
This is a good subject, but just posting the acronym without explaining any further seems to not do it justice.

Its also hard to enter in a discussion when you only post an acronym, and its meaning without going further on the subject or its implementation.

I could post:

Call 911(or 101, 112, etc.) in a topic titled "Emergency Services".

I know you have the knowledge, time and experience to add a lot more to this topic, please do.

Re: ACT

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:14 am
by tacticalguy
This sounds like an acronym for what to do in the event of an Active Shooter situation.

Re: ACT

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:30 am
by Breacher01
tacticalguy wrote:This sounds like an acronym for what to do in the event of an Active Shooter situation.
The only I can extrapolate is that the must be an emergency situation where the exact situation is unclear, but its highly likely there are one or more injured people.

Lets look at it in detail:
A - Actions. Run, hide or fight.
This first letter of the acronym suggests there is a situation going on where you have to run, hide of fight.

If you have no equipment running away from a forest fire is a good idea. When you need to hide, of fight there must be an animal or human you can flee from of fight. it may also be a danger you can hide from. This does not exclude other dangers.
C - Communicate. Observe, interact, activate.
I don't like to criticize every detail, but this should start with the O(A.O.C.T.). You can't communicate useful information to anyone before you have observed enough to provide anyone with new or more detailed information. When your first action was to run, you should have been able to observe enough already before communicating. Activating seems to me like an interaction, so I'll assume this involves activating people not yet involved or present though communication.

If you call the emergency services, or call in extra units because of your understanding of the situation you face or faced, are you interacting, activating or communicating?
T - Treat. Bleeding, airway, breathing.
This is basic first aid, for a single victim. Stop the bleeding, Clear the airways and put them on their side so they can't fall and are less likely to choke in vomit or blood. With burn victims or other injuries there are other priorities after making sure their airways are free, such as not to move people with possible spinal or neck injuries, and less likely trauma(heart,circulation, poisoning etc. ) and watching for and or preventing shock are important from the moment you encounter an injured person.

Therefore i think this ACT scheme is incomplete. I understand why you assumed there could be an active shooter(thats never mentioned) because of the actions described here, but a multitude of situations could be encountered, and this is therefore incomplete.

can you guess A.I.T.M.O.A.F.U. ?

Re: ACT

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:55 pm
by Ryan
Breacher01 wrote:This is a good subject, but just posting the acronym without explaining any further seems to not do it justice.

Its also hard to enter in a discussion when you only post an acronym, and its meaning without going further on the subject or its implementation.

I could post:

Call 911(or 101, 112, etc.) in a topic titled "Emergency Services".

I know you have the knowledge, time and experience to add a lot more to this topic, please do.
Active shooter.
A. Deciding to stay in the fight and fight, to hide, or to retreat.
C. Communicating that decision. Observing, interacting, and activating the team and resources at your disposal.
T. Treating haemorrhage first. TQ, pressure. Airway second. Manual sweep, positioning. If capable, BVM +OP/NP but not a qualifier. Breathing if required.
It's tailoured towards the civilian audience who may run instead of treat, so they can activate emergency services.

Re: ACT

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:40 am
by Breacher01
It's tailoured towards the civilian audience who may run instead of treat, so they can activate emergency services.

Then I think you should add "Get someone to call emergency services" pretty high in there somewhere, 911 works on most of the world, the actual number may vary.

My opinion is someone is going to run, hide, fight or provide aid on their own, with their level of experience, but in most cases people get hurt because someone could be already be treating wounded on their own, or try to put out a fire, but they forget to get someone else to call emergency services immediately because they are only focused on the problem before them, with their skillset.

With your work you must encounter this a lot with any emergency where there is a first responder, but to much of a crisis for him/her to manage? to much injured or a fire to big to extinguish?

In my units we even are trained to extinguish a fire with one guy actually extinguishing, a buddy looking out for both of their surroundings and safety and a third looking around for the next fire extinguisher, and the next after that... If we cant put it out with 3 extinguishers I not Law enforcement anymore...

Re: ACT

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:12 am
by Ryan
Breacher01 wrote:Then I think you should add "Get someone to call emergency services" pretty high in there somewhere, 911 works on most of the world, the actual number may vary.

With your work you must encounter this a lot with any emergency where there is a first responder, but to much of a crisis for him/her to manage? to much injured or a fire to big to extinguish?

In my units we even are trained to extinguish a fire with one guy actually extinguishing, a buddy looking out for both of their surroundings and safety and a third looking around for the next fire extinguisher, and the next after that... If we cant put it out with 3 extinguishers I not Law enforcement anymore...
It should be that common numbers (000, 911, 991, 999) all go through to emergency services. At least, that's what it is like here. It might not be the same globally.

Don't know about fires, we get firies on scene as quick as possible. We actually do not enter until it is safe so for a first responder safety comes first.

Re: ACT

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:55 pm
by Breacher01
With fires I mean starting fires, according to my training those are fires that have not spread out yet, so a piece of furniture on fire that hasn't spread to other furniture or the curtains yet.
If a fire spreads we communicate the exact location, and status to the scene commander, and he has to decide if we clear out immediately, try to continue our objective, or evacuate checking for possible(future) victims.

If there are 2 rooms on fire we can't extinguish with the 2 6kg CO2, or ABC Foam extinguishers we care with the breaching gear, Stilh 2stroke grinders, chainsaws and smoke/gas/distraction devices can easily start small fires we smother out before the entry team exits. With drug labs we have fire services arrive when we do, but stay quietly around the corner.