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Anti-Grab Drills

Post by Ryan » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:02 am

Anyone know any good anti-grab drills, specifically anti-helmet grab?
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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by civiliansheepdog » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:09 am

anti-grab drills specially for helmets? never done a anti-grab drill that involves helmet but i've done drills if someone grabs your hair, and you got to release it. i guess it would be kinda the same thing with a helmet. simplest technique if someone grabs your hair(if you got hair, hahah) is a straight forward eye gouge( pushing your thumbs into the eye instead of a poke) or pulling the opponent in for a head butt. since you're head is kinda in a downward position, it's a perfect position for you because all you have to do is yank the person's head by jerking the back of the neck of the opponent and his face will follow onto your head
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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by Ryan » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:22 am

Yes like two hands on helmet, you can go for the face, eyes, etc. You can also push your hands over their arms and bring them down, countering the two hand grab.
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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by civiliansheepdog » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:33 am

Yes breaking the grab with the hands going over. I'm assuming if you're in the field, it's pretty much a life or death situation I would just deploy a knife and bye-bye.

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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by Ryan » Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:35 am

Haha ouch!
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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by tacticalguy » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:49 pm

Ryan wrote:Anyone know any good anti-grab drills, specifically anti-helmet grab?
1.) Point issued weapon at attacker's midsection. 2.) Pull trigger, repeatedly, in a rapid fashion. If weapon is equipped with burst or automatic fire, pull trigger and hold. 3.) Rinse and repeat, as needed. :lol:
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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by Davo » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:25 pm

I'm a big fan of drilling the intercepting of the grab before it's applied and then outflanking the offender via armdrags. This pays huge dividends in multi-angle, multi-opponent situations.

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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by Ryan » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:00 am

What about the opposite situation - you grabbing? Anyone got taught "Redirect, control, engage, remove"?
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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by nathanwagar » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:47 am

Going for the eyes, etc won't work reliably. The helmet and the hair give incredible leverage, especially if your opponent knows anything about the clinch. If someone grabs anything that manipulates your head, literally the first thing you need to do is slightly lower your level and hip into the opponent. What happens when your head gets pulled down, is your head is forward of your spinal structure, and you are fighting all that leverage and torque with your neck muscles. Lowering your level and walking your hips quickly into the threat (think like sprawling into him rather than away), aligns your spine again so that you can use your back muscles to resist as you work whatever counter you prefer. This also has the effect of upsetting his base and removing his leverage advantage when done with constant pressure.

The second thing you need to do nearly simultaneously is to shrug both shoulders up until they cradle your neck. This allows you to essentially "cheat" and "widen" your neck so that it is more difficult to snap you back down as you work your preferred counter. Both of these concepts are common to wrestling and Muay Thai clinchwork.

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Re: Anti-Grab Drills

Post by Ryan » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:53 am

Nathan what about in the context of a room entry if I have a helmet on, which is grabbed, is it the same or similar process?
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