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Chicken Winging

Post by Ryan » Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:17 am

From Reddit:

"When not to chicken wing: when wearing armor or carrying a short carbine and engaged in close quarters battle.

Why: The stability you gain with a chicken wing relies on deepening the pocket between your pec major and your anterior deltoid. If that pocket is covered or rendered inconvenient by the heavy solid plate that is saving your life from bullets, there's no point. That heavy solid plate, by the way, is the primary reason for those collapsing M4 stocks.

Furthermore, chicken winging naturally encourages you to blade your body and face the target side on. This reduces the effectiveness of armor, because it gives the target a straight and unprotected shot at vital organs. When the target is a man with a rifle and not a piece of paper or cardboard, that is a severe disadvantage.

Finally, a protruding elbow can get banged against all sorts of shit. Unless you're fighting in a house which has no doors, hallways, refrigerator, furniture, or any other features, this is a disadvantage.

So: if you're engaged in the primary mission set of US Army Infantry or SWAT teams, don't chicken wing, because it will get you deaderer.

When to chicken wing: any other time you are using a rifle in the standing or kneeling position. Chicken winging offers increased stability, particularly when using a sling. It will allow you to shoot more accurately, more quickly, and with less fatigue.

Why: with your left hand, reach up and feel the cleft between your right pec and shoulder. It may be very prominent, particularly if you have boxer's shoulders. Now chicken wing your right arm, and feel that same cleft again. It's in a slightly different position, and much deeper. Your deltoid now presents the perfect platform from which to shoulder a rifle.

Sling up and shoulder your rifle, if you have it handy. Put the buttstock in that shoulder pocket, and blade your body to whichever target you choose in the room at about a 45 degree angle. This angle will vary depending on your physiology. Look over your sights; find a natural and relaxed point of aim. Make note of how much the sights drift around.

Now do the same, but do not chicken wing. Make the same note. The rifle and sights will drift around much further. You can minimize that drift by holding the rifle Magpul style... but the drift will still be much greater than in proper sling-supported standing. Even without a sling, when you're not in armor or in CQB, chicken winging is preferred.

TL;DR: Chicken winging offers the position of best physiological advantage for shooting a rifle from the standing position. In the absence of the realities of CQB and body armor, using the chicken wing position is absolutely, irrevocably, and undeniably the best way to shoot a rife from the standing position. Working with body armor or in CQB, chicken winging is a good way to get dead and is to be avoided.

DR TL;DR ALWAYS CHICKEN WING UNLESS ARMOR OR CQB. NO CHICKEN WING ARMOR. NO CHICKEN WING HOUSE. K?"

I'd like to add on: If you have lats. Bumping into things. Getting your arm shot to buggery.
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