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Approach The Building

Post by manisayangku » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:46 pm

Guys, can we discuss on the approaching of buildings procedures?... I guess this havnt been touched before in this forum... How?...
As for me as marine enforcer, we have our own method in approaching suspected vessel or ship either by stealth means or board & search method.
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Post by Admin » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:05 am

God topic.

I have always used this tactic.
We use 3 points on the route: C-B-A
C is some distance away where you make ready.
B is a place or places depending how many entry points that are used. It is located as close as possible where your team isn’t detected.
A is the breach point/points.

Let me explain:
To teams are to attack a building from to sides.
Both teams make ready in C and on the element commanders order they move to the to B points.
When they are in B they signal that they are ready to continue.
When the order to go is issued both teams move to the A points in high ready, and stack up for entry.
They both signal ready again and the element commander issues 5-4-3-2-1 Go Go Go. And the teams make entry.
If they are detected on there way from B to A they start the attack running to A and make entry ASAP. They signal this over radio so other teams also start the attack.

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Post by Jack » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:18 pm

Nice and simple Admin. KISS all the way. I like it.

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Re: Approach The Building

Post by Ryan » Tue May 17, 2011 5:07 am

Yeah Admin that's spot on and it applies for both vehicular and not.

C being an LUP (Linking Up Position) or Phase line kind of area (FUP - Forming Up Position).
B being the approach route.
A being the specific entry or secondary entry point (FAP - Final Assault Position).
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Re: Approach The Building

Post by Dramatikk » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:18 am

Phase Lines

A tool used in some tactical operations is the planning/implementation/use of what are called “phase lines”.

Typically used on planned operations where you are orchestrating movement of persons, groups of persons, vehicles, or even entire armies; phase lines are used as markers that signal a change or a necessary action that is supposed to occur. They represent a demarcation where you enter a different “phase” of your mission.

In military operations, crossing a “phase line” (many times a physical “line” like a road, stream or other landmark) may mean that your Rules Of Engagement (ROE) have changed. A military unit may acquire different priority for artillery fire or fires may shift as units cross a “phase line”.

A fairly common use of this principle in “small-scale tactics” is using a phase line technique to orchestrate SWAT operations. While the labels may vary, many SWAT units use a “Phase Line Yellow” and a “Phase Line Green”. Phase Line Yellow represents your last point of cover and/or concealment before moving up to your assault position. Specific preparatory and communication-check tasks are performed here before moving up to “Phase Line Green”. When the order is given to move to Phase Line Green you are “at the door” and ready to start your “tactical dance” . Breachers move into position, gas launchers are readied for deployment, “tap up and tap backs” occur, weapon safeties may be disengaged etc. When you are ready to roll, the commander then gives the order to “execute”

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While not particularly useful for “routine” operations; if you have a situation where you have the time to plan, and the need to co-ordinate many activities and/or persons, “phase lines” can be a useful tool.

Example of Communication:

Following procedure should apply from the holding area (This is the point in the general area of the target location where the units can discretely wait until given approval to move to the first phase line):
Tactical Commander-”All Echo Units proceed to Phase Line Yellow”
Echo White T.L.-”Echo White is proceeding to Phase Line Yellow”
Echo Red T.L.-”Echo Red is proceeding to Phase Line Yellow”

All Echo Units then depart holding area for their respective Phase Line Yellows and complete their necessary tasks, then they advise the Tactical Commander:
Echo White T.L.-” Echo White is at Phase Line Yellow”
Echo Red T.L.-”Echo Red is at Phase Line Yellow”
Tactical Commander-”All Echo Units are at Phase Line Yellow, All Echo Units proceed to Phase Line Green with compromise authority” (The point of no return)

All Echo Units then depart Phase Line Yellow and proceed to their respective Phase Line Greens and complete their necessary tasks, then they advise the Tactical Commander:
Echo White TL-” Echo White is at Phase Line Green”
Echo Red TL-”Echo Red is at Phase Line Green”
Tactical Commander-”All Echo Units are at Phase Line Green, Tango Charlie has control”

A short pause of approximately three seconds should allow for any last minute transmissions
The Tactical Commander may then proceed with the pre-determined entry initiation sequence wich can sound something like this:
Tactical Commander-”All Echo Units stand by, 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 (Snipers Fire) ... 1 (Breach & Diversion Executed) ... Execute, Execute, Execute”
Sources of Information: http://www.twlk.com/law/tests/LETN1630305CT.pdf, http://www.slideshare.net/Mewthom/assautlers-briefing, http://training.afd-gaming.com/manuals/ ... ations.pdf & http://www.0xdecafbad.com/files/tac-pre ... school.pdf

Kind regards, Dramatikk. :)

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Re: Approach The Building

Post by Ryan » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:05 am

There's a lot on approach that hasn't been discussed. The approach stage is a stage where on compromise can change your whole plan to hit the building and how you hit it. It's a very interesting subtopic and I believe some street fighting techniques go well on a compromised approach or when covering your danger lanes.
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Re: Approach The Building

Post by jimothy_183 » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:16 am

Again with contingency plans. For example, when selecting a site for an ORP or PB you should always select a secondary site in case the first one is unusable for some reason (compromised or the enemy is occupyng it etc.).
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Re: Approach The Building

Post by Ryan » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:38 am

The approach phase is where you get compromised, are likely to lose people, can jeopardize the mission ,etc.
Any more thoughts on approach?

I.e. on security teams, overwatch. On the moving team. What good approach strategies are there?
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