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Why roll?!

Post by Ryan » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:01 am

I saw a few videos...

Mainly Russian, Pakistani counter-terrorism unit videos.


Why would you roll?
I have seen them roll INTO the room, roll while HALF WAY INTO the room and EVEN ROLL BEFORE engaging a target infront of them.
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Re: Why roll?!

Post by Ryan » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:49 pm

Roll. Flip. And otherwise do some insane stunts haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEDPmzhOy0s

There's other videos, especially with countries like India, Pakistan, Russia (some Spetsnaz) -- there armed forces doing similar things.

"Combat roll: A maneuver taught to some armed forces, Used in close combat. Much like a summer sault, using your shoulder as the point of impact on the ground and using forward momentum to cause a person to roll forward landing back on his or her feet." But I have seen it used in an offensive mindset not defensive like that quotation.
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Re: Why roll?!

Post by jimothy_183 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:23 am

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Re: Why roll?!

Post by Jack » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:36 pm

There is no good reason to roll. However breakfalls could be very useful. You may want to get flat very quickly. Knowing how to do martial arts front falls, backfalls, and side falls are great. You may need to get small behind a vehicle very quickly. Mag pull practices this stuff a lot from what I can tell. Or you may need to quickly get concealment by dropping down into the tall grass, then roll or crawl away from the spot you went down. If they can't see you, people will often assume you were hit and went down.

Don't get me wrong, I don't understand why you would do forward rolls and come right back to your feet.

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Re: Why roll?!

Post by jimothy_183 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:25 am

Actually Jack, my martial arts teacher has always taught that a forward (or back) roll is to be used for when you trip over or you get pushed over.
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Re: Why roll?!

Post by Jack » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:17 pm

The real purpose of breakfalls is for when you get thrown on the ground by an opponent. It allows you to land with minimal damage. If you take a grappling class like judo, you have to be able to do breakfalls from day one, just to make it through the class without getting hurt. Doing breakfalls for situations where you are pushed or fall on your own is an added plus.

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Re: Why roll?!

Post by tacticalguy » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:15 am

Roll? I understand the breakfalls as Jack said. Rolling is just... Hollywood. I don't advocate it, even as a long time martial arts instructor. In the dojo, on the mat? Sure. Not in a real life CQB situation.
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Re: Why roll?!

Post by Ryan » Sat May 26, 2012 1:53 pm

Thanks for the replies. Spider drops and break-falls are great.

One example I found, though a media show-pony demo:

4:49.

Note: Female and male mixed operators.

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