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Flashbang vs. Windows

Post by Buzzsaw » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:15 pm

In the book: Rainbow Six, the operators place flashbangs right next to the windows, which break when the grenade goes off.

Is this realistic? Would a flashbang placed directly next to a window smash it enough for an operator to enter through?
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Post by Admin » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:31 pm

If you place a stunn grenade on the window from out side, I think that it is possible, but I have never tried it. Why not use detonation cord?

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Post by Buzzsaw » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:41 pm

Yeah, I definently see how det cord would be better, but I think the operators used the flashbang because it was quicker.
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Post by JW417G » Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:26 pm

It is possible the over pressure could break the glass, depending on what kind of glass it is. But, in the real world of L.E., there would be some liability risk from sending glass fragmentation inward towards the occupants within the structure or room...depending on the type of operation you're conducting. You would actually have less fragmentation with explosive entry techniques.

I have seen it where a team approaches a rear sliding door (which is made of safety glass) and stacks on the side of the door. The Point Man (#1) takes a knee and Point Cover (#2) covers over the top. Point man then uses a window punch to the bottom corner of the glass door to "spider web" the glass. The #3 man steps to the side and tosses the flashbang through the glass, which only makes a small hole. When the bang goes off, the over pressure pushes the rest of the glass outward, leaving an unobstructed path in through the door. So, the bang serves two purposes...to distract the occupants of the structure or room, and to clear the glass out of the entry point.

It's a very quick technique. The only thing you have to be careful of is sliping on the glass on the ground as you approach the opening.
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Post by Buzzsaw » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:02 pm

Interesting...
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Re: Flashbang vs. Windows

Post by Ryan » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:48 am

Depends on how many panes and thickness of glass, British housing has more for heating and keeping in heat purposes. Good to think about when operating in a colder environment.
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Re: Flashbang vs. Windows

Post by badger » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:33 pm

One remark.
Use the masks when you deploy flashbang or det cord on the glass,there are a lot of microscopic pieces of glass in the air.
We have something like flashbang,its simulations of detonation of grenade,and it work on windows very well,sometimes is necessary use baton to clean rest of glass pieces in the frame.

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Re: Flashbang vs. Windows

Post by Ryan » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:05 am

Would a multi-burst one be better for this role incase the first bang did nothing?
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