Perfect Example of the SAS Principles

[Ryan]

Speed, Aggression, Surprise. Perfect concoction for immediate entry.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aaf_1498698332

[Breacher01]

Can you please defend your statement, because whe have a dead suspect and a child hostage here? Beyond this one source i mean?

My job still requires me to get the suspect alive and in front of a judge in most cases. In my military days i would decide to kill, wound or arrest a suspect. now the decision goes to a judge. Preserving life, even of suspects/criminals is my main purpose. Thats why i have a number of less-then-lethal options at my disposal.

If i would kill a suspect i will have to defend my actions in front of a commitee. consequences are mild because i have about 0.3 seconds to decide, but reflect on my active status.

[Ryan]

I'd have to point the finger to an American, I cannot defend that this is good in Law Enforcement. I can only defend that this is a good example of an immediate entry hitting all of those principles. Australia is completely different. Hardly, if ever, does this occur (a good recent example of it occurring is the Brighton siege, Melbourne).

[tacticalguy]

Can you please defend your statement, because whe have a dead suspect and a child hostage here? Beyond this one source i mean?

My job still requires me to get the suspect alive and in front of a judge in most cases. In my military days i would decide to kill, wound or arrest a suspect. now the decision goes to a judge. Preserving life, even of suspects/criminals is my main purpose. Thats why i have a number of less-then-lethal options at my disposal.

If i would kill a suspect i will have to defend my actions in front of a commitee. consequences are mild because i have about 0.3 seconds to decide, but reflect on my active status.

I can defend it. This was an SAS operation. It wasn't law enforcement, it was a military op. As you will no doubt remember, there are different goals for military units as opposed to law enforcement units.

[Breacher01]

I can defend it. This was an SAS operation. It wasn't law enforcement, it was a military op. As you will no doubt remember, there are different goals for military units as opposed to law enforcement units.

No one is named McNab, and they speak murrican. Its Las Vegas PD SWAT units.

Considering they know there's likely one suspect they scream a lot. They are bordering losing unit cohesion because of the amount of excess yelling. Can any of you make out of the audio fragments who is in charge and who is sharing critical information?

I've watched both videos a few times, and maybe its because I do this as a dayjob, but I think its only a perfect example of using excessive force to achieve a goal.

By the way, I've been active in the military since the first tours in afghanistan. Even in heavy combat facing opposition at less then a hundred yards communication should be absolutely relevant at squad and platoon level. Radio's only come in simplex or duplex...

[tacticalguy]

I can defend it. This was an SAS operation. It wasn't law enforcement, it was a military op. As you will no doubt remember, there are different goals for military units as opposed to law enforcement units.

No one is named McNab, and they speak murrican. Its Las Vegas PD SWAT units.

Considering they know there's likely one suspect they scream a lot. They are bordering losing unit cohesion because of the amount of excess yelling. Can any of you make out of the audio fragments who is in charge and who is sharing critical information?

I've watched both videos a few times, and maybe its because I do this as a dayjob, but I think its only a perfect example of using excessive force to achieve a goal.

By the way, I've been active in the military since the first tours in afghanistan. Even in heavy combat facing opposition at less then a hundred yards communication should be absolutely relevant at squad and platoon level. Radio's only come in simplex or duplex...

You're correct, it was LVPD SWAT. I shouldn't be posting while half asleep.

[Breacher01]

Your sins are forgiven...

[tacticalguy]

Your sins are forgiven...

Thank you, sir.