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Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:29 am

What is the 'hard corner'? :) Basic questions for people to chip in when coming to CQB-team.

Also called short corners (vs long), near corners (vs far), blind corners (vs seen).
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by jimothy_183 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:59 am

A hard corner can be defined as the corner(s) that is on the same wall as the door.

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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Dramatikk » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:01 pm

jimothy_183 wrote:A hard corner can be defined as the corner(s) that is on the same wall as the door.

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Then I guess there is no brainer for people to also figure out where the "Deep Corner(s)" are located? :P

By the way, nice type of thread, Ryan. :wink:

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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:27 am

Dramatikk wrote:
jimothy_183 wrote:Then I guess there is no brainer for people to also figure out where the "Deep Corner(s)" are located? :P

By the way, nice type of thread, Ryan. :wink:

Kind regards, Dramatikk. :)

:lol: New guys would find it hard to know some basic terminology so. Nice contributing Jimothy, great pic.
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:54 pm

What about a basic definition?
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by jimothy_183 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:22 am

Ryan wrote:What about a basic definition?
????? Is that not basic enough? :? :lol:
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:39 am

I've been asked the question many a time. :D
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by jimothy_183 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:35 am

Ok fine, a simpler definition is a corner that cannot be observed from outside the room.
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:57 am

And the easy corners are the corners you can see from the entry point.

What if there are other corners, what do you call them? I.e. A dodgey shape, a bunch of 90 degree corners.


Like this building (Church) layout. Hardcorners, easy corners, but also corners dug into the layout (left and right sides).
I'd also like to note common room layout obstacles like pillars, seating arrangements.
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by badger » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:56 pm

we call it simply: "barrier left, barrier right" ( cupboard, sofa, another corners, etc .... ) it means there are some spaces we cant see,

then we can specify sort of barrier : "close cupboard right"

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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:27 am

So you'd say, "barrier, left corner". Gotcha! Thanks.
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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by jimothy_183 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:17 am

Don't mean to nit pick but it's more commonly referred to as a "barricade" in tactical comms which is any object that can provide a BG with concealment and/or cover.

I've never heard of a standard term used to refer to the other corners, I have heard "deep" or "far" corners but I guess you can call them easy corners if you want.

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Re: Basic Questions: Hard corner?

Post by Ryan » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:21 am

That's what I thought but I didn't want to say anything... easy corner it is. I sometimes say "secondary" corners, as the primary would be the easy and hard - with no additionals. It's just breaking away from the constant and therefore becoming a secondary class.

But always remember, "The 90's will kill you".

It's easier to call it dead space or dead ground.
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