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risk adverse mentality

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:41 am
by arthur
being in the army i have seen this issue over and over again and i assumed that it was only happening in the army,but police department or any other public service are going thru the same thing. this mentality is effecting good leadership effectiveness and result are either mediocre or non-existent. to be leader in this time is hard but that has always been since time immemorial.I have read lots of principle on leadership from many individual from business,politician and military, i realize that the ability of creating your own principle is the most important aspect of being a leader.Like is has been said before "adversity builds character" the action of a leader is what defines one. but how can you develop the leadership in a organization that are afraid of taking risk?if somebody knows what im talking about reply.

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:46 am
by jimothy_183
From what I understand, your trying to say that if a person is not being given a chance to practice in the real world, they won't be able to grow and that the only way to learn something is by actually doing it. There is a saying that I've heard before and it goes: "If it doesn't kill you, it'll only make you stronger".

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:04 pm
by Jack
I think that this would greatly depend on your policy. For instance, when I worked as a patrol Officer, there was a policy for everything. There really want's a lot of creativity, the only reason you called a Sergeant was because one, he knew the policy better than you, or to to shift the responsibility of your actions onto him. Other than that, his job was to read your reports and make sure you got to the range on time.

However, what I do now, is narcotics investigation. This type of Police work requires outside the box thinking, and their is no one answer on how to work cases. Creativity is the name of the game. Granted, my Sergeant generally stays in his office and looks at E-BAY, but certainly I have learned a lot more about leadership (in his absence) than I would did in Patrol. The very fact that things are unpredictable and that something might go wrong, is why he generally doesn't get involved.

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:46 pm
by arthur
If one take the time to study warfare one realizes that each one of the engagement is diferent from the others. What use to be routine is now becoming obselete.policies or doctrine hardly ever keep up with current what im saying that to be pro-active we must think outside the box,but why is it that sheeps(civilian) who influence our leaders can't understand that?I, a like any human being, im afraid of change but i embrace for the better even if it hurt or kill me for the better.To be leader i realize that I must push it beyond what is prescribe of me.beyond what people consider normal.ive been in situation were i made some difficult calls,but i made them almost got myself hurt,but when i explain this to people they give me sigh of disbelief or straight ignorace but they want thing to be back how it used to as a leader,crowned or not,should he or she not experience thing that are beyond the normal?Im expected to be the first one on the field to set the condition of victory, I must take the risk of the unknown

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:29 pm
by RonD
Leaders also have to sell management the benefits of training outside the box, and for scenarios that only the criminal mind and mother nature can imagine. It is hard, but if you can articulate what and why you are trying to train your people outside the scope of normal duties, then you have a leg up on selling such training to management. Policies and SOP are guidelines, they're written and updated as issues and time passes, but they're by no means gospel. A leader must think outside the box, and anticipate thru their judgement, training and experience.


Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:37 am
by Ryan
RonD wrote:A leader must think outside the box, and anticipate thru their judgement, training and experience.
With common sense mixed in, I see too many that aren't fully aware of the situation and their "thinking" does not as far as the teams thinking. Therefore a wrong , and stupid, decision shows up and that leader loses credibility.

Re: risk adverse mentality

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:38 am
by jimothy_183
I want to hear some opinions on this but I believe that in recent times with a lot of lawsuits flying around and unfavourable court decisions for LEAs and militarys is what has caused more of these leaders to turn to this risk adverse mentality.

Now I'm young so I don't know what life was like in times like the 50's and what not but it seemed like back then everyone generally had a lot more common sense and were more responsible people who didn't turn to the legal system to solve all of their problems.